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Beneath The Surface: Journeys of Scientists and Discovery in Lake Champlain
Season 23 Episode 7 | 24m 50sVideo has Closed Captions
Follow the personal and professional journeys of scientists working to protect Lake Champlain.
Follow the journeys of five scientists who are working to protect Lake Champlain and its watershed. Find out how early experiences shaped their careers as well as the challenges and rewards that drive them to safeguard our shared waters today. From filmmaker Vince Franke from Waterbury, VT
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Beneath The Surface: Journeys of Scientists and Discovery in Lake Champlain
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Follow the journeys of five scientists who are working to protect Lake Champlain and its watershed. Find out how early experiences shaped their careers as well as the challenges and rewards that drive them to safeguard our shared waters today. From filmmaker Vince Franke from Waterbury, VT
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship-For decades, scientists -have worked to better -understand and protect -Lake Champlain -and its watershed.
-Data collected over many years shows us how the lakes, water quality and ecosystems are changing over time.
-Ongoing research -based on this data -helps guide -smart investments, -management decisions, -and community efforts -to improve the health -of the basin.
-Hi, I'm Ryan Mitchell, I'm -the education and outreach program manager for the Lake Champlain Basin program.
-We're going to meet -five scientists whose work -spans diverse fields, -from deep lake ecology -to sustainable -agriculture.
-Each scientist -brings a unique background -and set of interest -to their research.
-Their personalities -and passions -inform their work -in the science that guides protection and restoration of Lake Champlain but while there are areas -of expertise -in the past that -led to their work differ, -they all share a strong -connection to the Lake -Champlain basin -and a commitment -to protecting -the place they call home.
-So I'm going to go -to the top of that.
-Then one person can walk -down.
-I'm excited -that I'm able to move back -to my home state -and try to help conserve -a place that I love.
-I knew from like age five -that I wanted to be -in the scientific field, -and I wanted to be able -to help -make an impact, -a positive impact.
-I remember going to camp -as a kid -and being asked -what I want to do when I grow up and I would say a marine biologist and people would say do you even know what a marine Biologist does?
And I was like, yes, I do.
-I grew up on the banks of -the river in Colchester.
-Always being able -to hop on my bike -and right down -to the river -or right down to the lake.
-So I definitely grew up -with these questions, -and really wanted -to get a better -understanding of how -we can conserve all the -things that we love.
-And so I was lucky -that I was able -to be exposed -to a variety -of different opportunities -to to get me in the field -that I love.
-And I've been working in -now for close to 20 years.
-Originally, though, -I was really focused -on the ocean, -and so I went -and got my undergraduate -degree in fisheries.
-But after that, -I headed up to Alaska -for the summer -and just fell in love -with salmon -and fell in love -with rivers.
-It shifted my direction -from that marine -focus -back into freshwater.
-It looked like a pool.
-I spent 18 years out -in California -working on salmon -restoration there, -and when an opportunity -opened up out of the Lake -Champlain -Fish and Wildlife Office, -I was able to bring back -the the knowledge -and the skills -that I learned -working with pacific salmon -out here to -work with -the atlantic Salmon.
-Landlocked Atlantic -salmon are really unique -in the fact -that, you know, -everybody's -used to their cousins, -the indigenous form -in the Atlantic Ocean.
-But the fact -that we were able -to have a population of -landlocked Lanark salmon -here in the Lake Champlain -basin is amazing.
-And so just being able -to try -to find opportunities to -be able to have those fish -have natural reproduction -in our rivers, -and to bring back that -native -iconic -species to the basin is -is definitely something -that makes me excited -and gets me up every day.
-Today we're out here -to kind of measure -what we have -for adult -spawning habitat, -as well as juvenile -rearing habitat, -and that will help us -determine -whether or not there's any -restoration actions that -we potentially could take, -or other -opportunities to -make sure -that we're getting fish up -here to the high quality -habitat -as you advance -in your career, -at least in the fisheries -field -and maybe -even in the natural -resource field, -you definitely end up -spending a lot more time -thinking about the data -you're collecting, -analyzing the data, -getting the information -out to reports -and presentations, -and then bringing it to -meetings so you can help -make management -decisions, opportunities -for the field -that are often limited.
-So there's a lot of time -spent in meetings.
-It's hard -to go from a field -biologist every day -in the field -to to those -first couple of years -when you're -just in the office.
-But the importance of -the work we're doing out -here is shown -through those meetings -and being able -to inform decisions.
-A lot of the work -I've always been doing, -or the work -I've been doing has been -in the adaptive management -framework.
-And the great thing -about adaptive management -is that you're collecting -information -to bring the science -forward, -to make more informed -and smarter decisions, -and that is critical.
-So recognizing -the importance of that -makes it a little bit -more palatable -to to be in the office -and attend those meetings -as opposed to not spending -your days outside, -being able to -get other people -enthusiastic -about this field, -about the work -we do, and help -provide them -an opportunity -to get exposed -to different -field surveys -or different -restoration actions, -and help them figure out -the career path -that they want to take.
-And that's -something for me -that's bringing me a lot -of joy in my job now.
-It's just great to be back -and it's great -to be working with sister -iconic species.
-For many researchers -in the basin, mentoring -young scientists -goes hand in hand -with their work -to protect the Lake -Champlain watershed -for future generations.
-New scientists -entering the field -will need to address -evolving challenges -facing our region.
-Doctor Timothy Mihuc -at the Sunni Plattsburgh -Lake Champlain Research -Institute brings -students into the lab -and out on the water, -where they gain hands -on experience in lake -monitoring and analyzes.
-Some big -old copepods in there.
-So I like to tell -people I'm -a disturbance ecologist, -not a disturbed ecologist.
-Itd be really interesting -to know if there's -any distribution -between the shallow -and the deep.
-Probably the thing -I enjoy most about my job -at Plattsburgh -is getting projects going -and then getting students -involved in projects.
-I think I knew as a child -that I was interested -in water.
-I was the kid in the ditch -when it rained -playing in the water.
-As I finished -my undergraduate -and ended up in -graduate school, -I realized it's -the biota in water -that fascinate me -the most.
-Streams and insects -in rivers, plankton -and fish and other things -in the lakes.
-My job is very fulfilling -at Suny Plattsburgh -and I always say -I really like my job.
-I, I get to do -a lot of different things.
-We have a lot of projects -going on -in the research institute.
-One of the main ones -is the long term -monitoring program, -which we've been -supporting -at Plattsburgh -for decades.
-We process -all the biological samples -of plankton from the lake -and get that data -together for -the monitoring program.
-And then we look -at that data -and try to understand -the patterns -and what's going on -and what's -changing in the lake.
-So today we're doing -diel vertical migration.
-So we're doing -multiple depths.
-They're doing -five meter intervals -with three different net -types.
-And we're getting the -the basically plankton -that live -in the different strata -of the lake from zero down -to 50m.
-The whole ecosystem -depends on this vertically -structured -thermal structure -in the lake.
-So if it changes, -for instance, -it changes with climate -change or storm events -Disrupt it, -You're messing around -with all of these species -in their evolution -and their biology -to orient toward this -vertical structure.
-So it's pretty important.
-16 going to ten.
Right now, -the biological responses -that we've seen in Lake -Champlain, -especially in -the plankton, -are a story of invasive -species.
-We had early 90s -onset of zebra mussels -in the lake.
-They had a huge change -in the lakes biota.
-Our micod shrimp -populations, -which is one of the -largest predators -in the plankton -in the lake.
-Crashed in the 90s, -a couple three years after -the zebra mussels invaded.
-And then most recently, -we've had two invaders -invade Lake Champlain.
-It was a student in my lab -that discovered -the spiny -water fleet in 2014.
-It was a different student -in my lab that -discovered the fishhook -water flea in 2018.
-Those were not wonderful -moments, but -students were there going, -oh my God, this thing -just invaded the lake.
-And then they come to me -and then we go -down to the lab -and then we all get upset.
-Getting students involved -in this work is important -because they're going -to be the stewards -of the future -of what we do in Lake -Champlain.
-Three, two, one.
-I'd say directions -for the future for me -as a scientist, -will probably be -to make sure -our monitoring program -is on solid, stable ground -and that we're -contributing to -that into the future.
-And we have a new study -on microplastics -in the lake.
-We're going to survey -the entire lake, -all the monitoring -samples, -and look to see where -plastics are, -try to get a handle -on the distribution -of plastics lake wide, -which is a huge issue, -and it's environmental -issue -that I think -we need -to do a little more -to try to figure out -and then sort of tackle -that problem in all water -bodies, including -Lake Champlain.
-The lake -is a divide between -New York and Vermont, -but it also brings us -together.
-We share this lake -together.
-Everyone -who lives around it -Quebec, New York, Vermont, -we all share -Lake Champlain.
-And in many ways, -I've been able to work -with a lot of people over -the last 20 plus years -who share the values -of preserving -and conserving what -this lake is, keeping it -clean, keeping it -healthy, and leaving it -for future generations.
-Yeah, it's a dream job, -I guess you would say.
-Many environmental -scientists -trace their careers back -to early experiences -of the natural world.
-This is true for Bradley -Young and avid -angler and fish biologist -with the U.S.
-Fish and Wildlife Service, -who's management -of the Sea Lamprey control -program on Lake -Champlain contributed -to the restoration -of native -lake trout in 2025.
-Thanks to Brad's -and other scientists -efforts, future fish -biologists could very well -find career inspiration -while landing their first -wild lake trout or salmon.
-I thought it was all going to be about going out and put on waders and playing with fish and it hasn't been anything like that.
-Biology is certainly -about the science, -but managing natural -resources is about people.
-When I was in high school, -I really loved fishing -and I lived on the shore -of Lake -Erie in Angola, New York.
-I was even keeping -a little journals -and diaries as a little -amateur naturalist, -and I went to school -to become a fisheries -biologist.
-I've been in the lamprey -world since 1993.
-The animal, -even though -it's a parasite -and it's ugly -and it's not good, -it's really a fascinating -organism.
-It's 400 -million years old.
-It predated the dinosaurs, -and it's still here.
-The mouth is obviously -the functional part -of the lamprey -that everybody is -most familiar with.
-He's got a tongue -in his throat, -and the tongue is where -it actually grinds a hole -in the side of the fish -and get the fish -to start bleeding, -where they're then able -to suck their body fluids -and feed off of them.
-These things have -no jawbone.
-They can't bite you.
They're not going to bite or crunch or tear or anything of That sort.
All they do is attach.
You can see -they have -a natural suction and -they want to just go on -and attach.
-So see, lamprey -are invasive species.
-They're from the Atlantic -Ocean.
-The first truly documented -sea lamprey was found -in the Ausable River -by New York State -D.E.C., in 1922, I believe, -and they think -that they got in through -the Champlain Ship Canal, -but they were very low -levels, -and it wasn't really -until the 1970s, -when the states of Vermont -and New York -and the Fish -and Wildlife Service -got together and said, -let's restore -lake trout and atlantic -salmon in Lake Champlain, -that we started to have -a serious lamprey problem.
-Now that we were -putting in lots -and lots of soft bodied -salmonid species, -they were the perfect -morsel for sea lamprey -to latch onto -and use and reproduce.
-And within a matter of 10 -to 12 years, -the population of sea -lamprey exploded -in Lake Champlain, -and because of their size, -when they attach -to a species, -they typically kill them, -and for that reason, -it prevents our ability -to be able to restore -natively trout and native -Atlantic salmon.
-So that's why -we control them.
-And the two -kinds of control that we -use, our physical control -and a chemical control.
-Starting into this, -I was thinking, -this is just going to be -science.
-It's it's an issue.
-It's ecology, it's -fisheries biology.
-I'm just going to come in -and run numbers -and look at spreadsheets -and do data, -go in the field -and call it a job.
-And that's not been -anything like what -it's really turned out -to be for me.
-I do more work -managing people -and permits and politics -and discussions -on topics of -public interest -and things of that sort, -far more than the biology -itself.
-In my first few years, -I was frustrated -because I had to deal -with people -and they actually had -their own thoughts -and talked back.
-I preferred fish -who just sat there -and did nothing -and it was frustrating -for me, -I admit it, -but I also came to learn -that if I want this -stuff to -work, -I need to find ways to -work with people, -and I over time developed -some better skills -and was able to figure out -how to go about that.
-It's actually developing -a long term relationship -with landowners -in the area, in areas -that we work, -and letting them know -that this is -an ongoing program -and that we depend on them -for continued access -to areas of their land -and rivers and the lake, -and also being able -to do the work that we do -without being restricted -from that.
-I'm an angler, -I enjoy fishing, -I enjoy being on the lake -and just knowing -the damage -that sea lamprey -do to the native -fish populations -and how it affects -the environment, -how it affects -the fishery, -helping to be -a part of this solution, -and being able -to remove them -and keep their numbers -down to a point -which allows the native -fish populations -to come back -and be restored, -is meaningful to me.
-Farms are a defining -feature of the Champlain -Valley landscape -and help feed -our communities, -but limiting nutrient -pollution -from agricultural land -is critical to meeting -water quality targets.
-Doctor Heather Darby -grew up on a farm -and knows firsthand -the challenges -farmers face -in managing costs, -maintaining -productive fields -and taking care -of the environment.
-Her research at -the University of Vermont -helps get farmers -the tools and solutions -they need to build -healthy soil -and protect water quality.
-When you figure out -a practice or a system -that does all the things -that you want it -to protect the soil, -protect -the natural resources, -you want it to -produce food -and you want it -to create an environment -that's healthy -for your family, -for the people that -you know and live around.
-When you find that, -that feels really good.
-I'm a professor.
-I've always -done research at UVM, -and I think for me, -I wanted to answer -questions for the farmers -here in Vermont.
-I grew up on a farm right -up the road from here, -so I love farming.
-When I started -looking for colleges, -my mom didn't -want me to be a farmer, -which is what -I wanted to do.
-And she said, no, -you can't.
-She hates it -when I tell this story.
-You're too smart.
-That's what she said, -which showed you how -farmers even kind of felt -about themselves.
-For high school, -I had to go interview -somebody who I wanted -to have a career like.
-So I went over -and I talked to -this man Ev Thomas, -who was an agronomist.
-I had never heard of that -before, -sounded very exotic.
-And he had a diploma -on his wall behind him.
-And I thought, -that's really cool.
-That's really like exotic.
-Nobody will have ever -heard of that.
-My mom will definitely -let me do that.
-So that's how I decided to -become an agronomist.
-I don't know if anybody -really knows that story, -but they do now.
-This is the Border View -Research facility -that hosts -all of the research -that I do.
-And it's a private, public -collaboration -with Roger Rainville, -which is very, -very unique.
-We've been doing research -here.
-I have for 19 years, -I think.
-All right.
I'm ready.
Yep.
-We have 50 or 60 -like unique trials here -every year and thousands.
-It's like 3500 or 4000 -individual plots.
-We're changing -the seeding.
-The goal of this research -is really to be relevant -to the farming community -today, -helping them with -challenges, opportunities.
-Just in this strip alone, -there's 12 -different treatments -exploring -different cover -crop planning -dates, varieties -and seeding depths.
-And so for a farmer to put -12 different mixtures -or different cover -crops out in their farm, -that's a lot of work -in planning -that we can do here -beforehand -in these little plots -and just kind of -get a sense of, well, -what's going to work best.
-Every experiment gets -written up every year -into a little report -that we give out there -online, -and then we can take it -from these tiny little -plots to bigger fields.
-And, you know, -I always like to think -that we take -some of the risk -out of trying -new practices, -growing a new crop -before the farmer -tries -to do it themselves.
-There's -a lot more soybeans now -grown in Vermont, -and farmers -are struggling -to figure out how to cover -crop in soybeans.
-By the time most people -harvest this crop, -it's way too late -for a cover crop.
-We're trying to see -if we can use interceding -to get cover -crops on soybean ground.
-The benefit of the cover -crop.
-It's there -to hold the ground, -hold the soil in place, -especially during -the winter -when there's generally -would be nothing else -growing, and keeps -the soil from running off -and keeps nutrients -where they should be.
-I feel like the more -we've learned about -how a practice -might impact -the environment -in a negative -or positive way, -we continue to try -to do better, innovate, -and do better -for the environment.
-You know, Vermont's a -special place, -the farmers that are here, -they live -in their community.
-So keeping -everyone healthy -and the environment -healthy is really, -really -important to all of us.
-For Lake Champlain Basin -Program Chief Scientist -Doctor Matthew Vaughn, -working alongside the -researchers highlighted -in this series, -as well as countless -other -dedicated scientists, -is a source of optimism -for the future of -Lake Champlain.
-Sound science -leads to better management -of our natural resources, -and gives people -the information -they need to enjoy -and care -for our watershed.
-I have a very strong -connection -with Lake Champlain.
-I fell in -love with the lake -pretty much the moment -I saw it.
-I like doing my homework -and doing the math and -coming up with the numbers -that are going to be -meaningful to people -coming up with the answers -that are going -to be informative -to their lives.
-So it's not a sure thing.
-Having the answers -that are based on our best -science is just really, -really valuable to -to me -and to others, I think.
-And it's exciting -that it's all for a lake -that I love and a lake -that a lot of people, -you know, share -that love with me as well.
-When I was a -kid, I always loved math, -especially -when I learned calculus.
-It really blew me away.
-And I was just totally -taken by physics -and astronomy.
-And I went to college -for physics.
But at the same time, I was kind of going back packing and canoeing and climbing, -and I started to realize -that life -as a physicist might not -be a good match for me.
-It kind of occurred to me -that, you know, -water is a hugely, -hugely fundamental thing -that all living things -need, -all people need every day.
-And it might be really, -really fun to work on it -because it would -get me outside.
-Our mission is to improve -water quality, -conserve habitat, -and we work with partners -at all levels, -from municipalities -to nonprofits, up -to the federal government -in the US and Quebec.
-We have a lot of work -going on right -now, a lot of research, -a lot of projects -happening, -and a lot of ways -we're working to -improve Lake Champlain.
-Our long term -monitoring program -has been monitoring -water quality -since about 1990.
-So we have an incredible -source of information -on what -the lake and tributaries -have been doing -since then.
-There's -been some really useful -developments -in water quality.
-And so this is -an example of, you know, the next generation of water quality monitoring systems.
-So we're using this -to kind of supplement -what we have -with our -traditional sampling -where we're going out -with bottles, -filling up the bottles, -bringing them -back to the lab.
-It's incredibly valuable.
-And we're going -to keep doing that.
-This just adds -to our information.
-And this shines light -through the water -and measures -parts -of the water chemistry.
-So it measures the river -Every 15 minutes.
we can -see what's going on -Throughout the cycle -of a day, -night and day, -during storms, -during periods of low -flow, -all things that we miss -with traditional sampling -when we're going out -with a bottle.
-So right now I'm using a -highly sophisticated -cleaning equipment -to just clean off -the probes and make sure -there's nothing -in the path of that light.
-I love being out here, -but my -my normal work ranges -more from data -analysis, meeting -with people, meeting -with partners to determine -how we can use our funds -to best improve -water quality and habitat.
-So we work with something -called -an adaptive management -strategy.
-So we are able to use -science -to assess the condition -of Lake Champlain -and its watershed.
-And once we have -that science, -we release a report -called the state -of the Lake Report.
-And a lot of what I do -also is taking data -that we've collected -through studies -over the course of -a few years -or a few decades, -and I'm analyzing the data -and I'm -coming up with answers.
-So that way we can provide -evidence based information -to people -when they ask, can -I swim in a lake?
-Can I, you know, -can I drink the water?
-We have good answers -for those -and we can feel confident.
-I am really -hopeful for the -future of Lake Champlain.
-I think -in general, -and a lot of ways, -we have really good -water quality -here in our rivers -and our lake.
-We certainly have -challenges -that we're working on.
-But, you know, -there's a lot of areas -and a lot of times -when we can enjoy Lake -Champlain without issue.
-because I work -in this field, -I see how many really -smart people -are working on this and -the amount of investment -going into our lake.
-We have a shared goal -for the restoration -and protection -of Lake Champlain.
-So, you know, that's -that's really encouraging, -encouraging to me.
-I have young kids -and I'm doing this -for them as much as for me -and for our community.
-I want Lake Champlain to -be an excellent quality.
-when we pass off to the -next, the next generation.
-The scientists you've -just met are solving -complex problems, working -collaboratively -and mentoring -future researchers -to ensure a healthy -Lake Champlain -for generations to come.
-And while there are areas -of expertise -very widely, -they each share a deep -appreciation for the Lake -Champlain Basin -and are committed to -protecting all that makes -this place so special.
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